Ubuntu Lucid’s New Indicator Applet Is A Joke

May 26th, 2010 by Alex Cabal Leave a reply »

One of the big changes (besides window button placement, another facepalm that I won’t even get in to) in Lucid is the introduction of the new Indicator area. This area is supposed to merge and standardize various icons from the system tray (system tray: an area of the taskbar where various applications can place status and function icons) into an area on the taskbar where various applications can place status and function icons. Brilliant!

The first bit of joy is the messaging menu, a small envelope. It merges email, instant messaging, and social garbage like Twitter into a single clickable menu. But of course since this is Ubuntu, it only supports one email client, Evolution, and one instant messenger, Empathy. Both of which are pure shit. (Update: Shawn in the comments informs me that Pidgin is compatible with the messaging menu.) At least Evolution has the decency to be fairly stable; Empathy is still a half-baked piece of junk that doesn’t deserve the label of Beta. I’m assuming Gwibber is the only client Ubuntu supports for the social aspect, but I’m not interested in broadcasting my latest dump on Twitter, so I didn’t bother setting Gwibber up. But we’re not talking about the applications themselves, just the indicator, so let me get back on track.

Back in the halcyon days of yore, I had one icon for Pidgin and one icon for Thunderbird in my system tray. You would left click on either one of those to restore the windows; closing the windows would return them to the tray. Pidgin changed icons when I had a message waiting, and Thunderbird showed me the number of unread mails in my account. I could tell whether or not I had an IM queued or new mail, and a single click would open the right window so that I could get on top of it. Pure bliss.

Now, there’s a single envelope to tell me whether I have a new IM, mail message, Twitter trackback, or whatever. Which one do I have? Fuck me, I have no idea. It’s just a green envelope. How do I find out? I have to click the envelope to open a menu, scan the menu, and figure out what’s waiting for me. Then I have to click again to open the right application. We’ve moved from two clear icons that clearly represent the state of two different applications, and behave consistently when left-clicked, to a single icon that represents many applications, and whose state is unclear unless the user refocuses their attention and clicks on it to open a menu to read, then clicks again to open the right app. Brilliant job guys! Way to reduce the number of clicks and attention shifts I have to do to understand the state of my system! Oh, and too bad Evolution doesn’t minimize to the tray on close–you have to have it open in your taskbar at all times if you want to have your mail checked.

I don’t use Rhythmbox, because it’s terrible. I use Banshee, a far superior program. Banshee has it’s own plugin for the indicator applet. The old Banshee tray icon behaved this way: single left click opens Banshee (just like a single left click opens every single app in my system tray), hover shows you what’s playing, and right click opens a context menu with some handy options. Perfect.

The indicator applet for Banshee does this: left click opens a context menu with far fewer options. Right click opens the panel options menu (remove indicator applet from panel, lock to panel, etc.). Hover does nothing. To open the Banshee window I have to click twice. I can no longer tell what song is currently playing without opening the Banshee window. I still have an icon at the top of my screen, but now it’s called an indicator instead of a tray icon. How is this more clear or more useful? More to the point, HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM THE REGULAR TRAY ICON, BESIDES IT SUCKING WAY MORE?

It’s not different. In his blind zeal, Shuttleworth has unwittingly re-created the system tray under the guise of “shiny,” “new,” “usable,” and “consistent.” Unfortunately for us, “usability” and “consistancy” aren’t the result.

The old system tray was consistent. It had a clear HIG from Gnome that all the Gnome apps I use adhere to. Deluge, Transmission, Thunderbird, Banshee, Dropbox, Pidgin, Empathy–all of these apps open on left click, menu on right click, and info on hover. There is no ambiguity. THE SYSTEM TRAY WAS ALREADY CONSISTENT. Now, the indicator app does many things: left-click on Banshee to open a menu. Left click on the envelope to open a list of apps. Left click on Volume to open a volume bar. Left click on Battery to tell you that it’s charged. The indicator app is actually LESS consistent than the system tray. And it’s still a bunch of icons at the top of the screen. Way to lead the revolution, guys.

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23 comments

  1. Farliec says:

    I completely agree

  2. Chris says:

    Yeah, the Banshee app icon looks beastly under the default Lucid theme. A lot does: Ambience seems unfinished. Switched to the Victory Elementary theme, and life is much better.

  3. JPS says:

    i think the indicators are a good idea, but for now they aren’t consistent at all.

    the messaging menu envelope has to show the number of new mails or messages, the color has to be different for the different apps it hosts and it has to be configurable, perhaps with a gui…
    the banshee indicator has to have the hover-function like the normal tray-icon.

    i think the idea to have only a left click for indicators is to make it more consistent even for beginners (!?)

  4. Shawn Mannen says:

    I agree with you for the most part. But there are two inaccuracies.

    1. Empathy is working fine, at least for me.
    2. Pidgin works with the notification icon/menu.

  5. Jay says:

    Just upgraded and this indicator is garbage. Takes me 2 clicks to view Transmission and Rhythmbox now. What? Seriously?

    Let’s not even get into the fact that Applet icons, launcher icons, and system tray icons all have the same spacing when pressed up against each other.
    Someone actually thought spacing out items was a good idea?

    I don’t get it. What were they thinking.
    The new theme and button orientation also looks like crap, which is odd because the dark dust theme looked really good (now it’s got some weird grey bars on the sides, huh?) and I liked the brown bootup screen (the purple doesn’t even work on my display for some reason, and when it did, i think it looks generally not as good as the white glowing ubuntu logo on brown).

  6. adi says:

    i like only one thing in all this. the aesthetics. the rest i agree with you. too many clicks.independence apps ..none. no info on hover. until Mark and Ubunonical adress this, can i go for the good old sys tray?

  7. simon says:

    yeah, sadly, I basically agree with all of this. there is some logic in trying to group messaging services together, i suppose, but no solution of this kind is ever going to suit everyone, and I kinda object to having alternative options removed. I don’t seem to have much choice about this… :(

  8. perry says:

    completely agree. the most annoying ones are the volume and the battery icons. earlier you hover over the icon, you get to know the volume or what is the charge % and the time remaining till battery is empty. now, you have to click. its really really annoying, specially on a laptop. even windows does this loads better and the taskbar is still clutter free.
    also, i really don’t need an envelope icon. i use gmail/hotmail and i use fb chat. but there is no way to remove the fucking envelope!! if you remove the indicator applet, no bluetooth, no volume, no battery.
    i don’t even wanna think about the titlebar button placement.
    but i’ve finally found the solution to all this crap. i’ve switched to linux mint. they haven’t done these idiotic, useless changes as yet.

    • Alex Cabal says:

      You can remove just the envelope while keeping the rest by using this command:
      $> sudo apt-get purge indicator-messages

      • perry says:

        thanks alex! but as i’ve said earlier, i’ve switched completely from ubuntu to linux mint (laptop) or opensuse (desktop).

  9. Tell me about it. The volume thing really pissed me off. I ended up just removing it and guessing when I hit max / min volume or looking at mocp.

    I just had another fun experience along these lines trying to get an action to work in a notification. Someone thought that showing a popup DIALOG in place of an unobstrusive notification was a GOOD IDEA?

    Crazy… I was able to switch back to notification-daemon which is a million times better.

  10. Thomas says:

    This is what I thought all the time! And I was wondering, where the hover-effect on the battery or volume icon was gone!
    (I now have to click on the battery icon, click on the information now shown and scroll down to see the charge level in percent – WHY THE HELL???)
    I am wondering if I can deactivate it completely?!

  11. kirst says:

    Please explain to me why you have the right to bitch and moan about minute details of an entire fully functional free-of-cost operating system that just gave you a free update that many people spent months working on. If using Ubuntu really raises your blood pressure this much then it’s probably a good time for you to switch to another distro.

    • Alex Cabal says:

      You’re right, maybe it is time for me to switch. Too bad many of the other people who switched because of the bewildering and ill-planned changes in Lucid won’t bother complaining in the hopes of being heard.

  12. jwash says:

    I think, its great how ubuntu is shaping compared to any of the other os’es……. sorry

  13. Tack says:

    Since upgrading to Lucid and switching to Empathy, I am constantly missing IMs because the notification system is so horrid.

    I’m back to an old version of Pidgin that doesn’t know about the new indicator applet.

    Sure the applet looks pretty, but it’s completely unusable.

  14. LaPeGa says:

    I’m agree with you. I think Ubuntu did a step backward in this theme (and others)… I HATE Indicate Applet!

  15. Andrea R says:

    I almost agree.
    The sad part is that you can’t really remove it at all without loosing tray icons from some programs (transmission, bluetooth) and the battery monitor.

    A PPA should be made with those packages recompiled without the indicator patches.

  16. vijay says:

    you know, in the time it took you to bitch & moan about this you could have downloaded the source package, made a couple of changes to revert the behavior back to the way you liked it, and created a .deb binary of your new version to share your readers.

    i agree, the implementation isn’t that great in 10.04, but looking at the design papers (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu) i think the philosophy behind this change, and the potential it has, is simply awesome.

    • Alex Cabal says:

      Sorry, but “patch the source yourself” is not an acceptable answer for an everyday user like me who has better things to worry about. I will instead either turn the feature off or go to a different distro. But that’s the answer that many OSS people love throwing around when someone complains about their products instead of taking those complaints as valuable feedback!

    • Will says:

      Standardization of interface is good. Standardization on a bad interface is not.

  17. Will says:

    Amen, brother.

    It even took a while to understand why I lost the volume applet when I thought I removed the mail icon. The interface is consistent, in that it is consistently unintuitive. Please revert to sane left/right click behaviorr — whether in a system tray, notification area or indicator applet.

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